Foxtrot
Got Noob Sprayed
50%
Posts: 123
|
Post by Foxtrot on Sept 25, 2006 15:23:49 GMT -5
Can God(s) create a rock so big he(they) cannot lift it?
|
|
|
Post by notoriousfro on Sept 25, 2006 16:15:26 GMT -5
How can you distinguish the two serival? They are the same, essentially. Disprove creationism, and you disprove religion. Disprove religion, and you disprove creationism. Batt, post away my friend.
|
|
|
Post by Serival on Sept 25, 2006 16:29:45 GMT -5
Easily. Foxtrot's post is irrelevant. It's spam. It contributes nothing to the topic at hand.
If you so think you can disprove religion then go ahead, but do it in a different topic. I've seen enough of these threads to know that any attempt to disprove religion is more likely an attempt to cry out one's religious beliefs than it is a contribution to the topic at hand.
If you so want to debate religion you may post your own thread about it. Now if you wouldn't mind getting back to the topic at hand before this thread incurs irreparable damage.
|
|
|
Post by notoriousfro on Sept 25, 2006 20:58:44 GMT -5
I think I can disprove religion in general, but that isn't what i'm trying to do. I''m trying to disprove creationism by providing insight into how evolution is superior. Sorry for stating my opinions and asking what the difference between creationism and religion are. To me, they are one in the same, and disproving one is the same as disproving the other, as I said in the post you apparently did not comprehend. I will continue to try and disprove creationism in this thread, but as I said, going just by evidence against it, it is hard not to disprove religion in general (or at least Christianity.. other religions are for a different thread that don't involve the same beleifs) while disproving creationism. Get it?
|
|
|
Post by :[DS]: Battôsai on Sept 26, 2006 10:48:31 GMT -5
Hey fro, (and foxtrot, if you're interested) I've reposted in the "Why do you believe in God?" thread, so we can take discussion about religion there. In fact, I might as well move that thread in here...
|
|
|
Post by Noldi on Sept 26, 2006 14:49:14 GMT -5
(From all I've read about "god", I've been hearing some "BIGWORDS." -off-topic I think ) Well evoloution and creationism are like 50/50. I go by the saying "Seeing is believing." I'm christian and I'm not really a religious person. I never go to church (only on special occasions). I strongly believe on evoloutionism at least like 90% and 10% creationism. Why? Because why believe in something you haven't seen just heard or read about. Poppyco**. I don't know why people make such a big deal about something they never seen. This is pretty much what everyone else might of said, but I don't have time to read them. Well this is Noldi's point of view.
|
|
Foxtrot
Got Noob Sprayed
50%
Posts: 123
|
Post by Foxtrot on Sept 26, 2006 15:47:21 GMT -5
I will repost my question there, so you may answer it Batto.
|
|
|
Post by Serival on Sept 26, 2006 16:46:18 GMT -5
I think I can disprove religion in general, but that isn't what i'm trying to do. I''m trying to disprove creationism by providing insight into how evolution is superior. Sorry for stating my opinions and asking what the difference between creationism and religion are. To me, they are one in the same, and disproving one is the same as disproving the other, as I said in the post you apparently did not comprehend. I will continue to try and disprove creationism in this thread, but as I said, going just by evidence against it, it is hard not to disprove religion in general (or at least Christianity.. other religions are for a different thread that don't involve the same beleifs) while disproving creationism. Get it? If you think you can disprove religion in general, make a thread about it, and I'm sure that others that want to agree or disagree with you will make a fantastic thread. You can even use some points from that thread to show why creationism is wrong. I've offered you a chance to make a topic about it, and discuss it there. I've also asked you to get back to the subject at hand. You have done neither, you have also insulted me, and corrected me in one of your previous posts for an error I did not make. (reply #8). It's fairly easy to present facts against creationism. I've seen very good information shows about creationism and evolution where they make their points only in the topic at hand, and not saying that religion is merely right or wrong. They bring up evidence that supports or oppose The Garden of Eden (for example). Not god.
(From all I've read about "god", I've been hearing some "BIGWORDS." -off-topic I think ) Well evoloution and creationism are like 50/50. I go by the saying "Seeing is believing." I'm christian and I'm not really a religious person. I never go to church (only on special occasions). I strongly believe on evoloutionism at least like 90% and 10% creationism. Why? Because why believe in something you haven't seen just heard or read about. Poppyco**. I don't know why people make such a big deal about something they never seen. This is pretty much what everyone else might of said, but I don't have time to read them. Well this is Noldi's point of view. When people's belief's are threatened it means that there is a chance they might be wrong about something very big, and because both sides (agnostics, and religious people) tend to act like they're above the other especially when given evidence they think can not be disproved, they choose not to sit out. I may be wrong.
|
|
|
Post by notoriousfro on Sept 26, 2006 20:06:25 GMT -5
I think I can disprove religion in general, but that isn't what i'm trying to do. I''m trying to disprove creationism by providing insight into how evolution is superior. Sorry for stating my opinions and asking what the difference between creationism and religion are. To me, they are one in the same, and disproving one is the same as disproving the other, as I said in the post you apparently did not comprehend. I will continue to try and disprove creationism in this thread, but as I said, going just by evidence against it, it is hard not to disprove religion in general (or at least Christianity.. other religions are for a different thread that don't involve the same beleifs) while disproving creationism. Get it? If you think you can disprove religion in general, make a thread about it, and I'm sure that others that want to agree or disagree with you will make a fantastic thread. You can even use some points from that thread to show why creationism is wrong. I've offered you a chance to make a topic about it, and discuss it there. I've also asked you to get back to the subject at hand. You have done neither, you have also insulted me, and corrected me in one of your previous posts for an error I did not make. (reply #8). It's fairly easy to present facts against creationism. I've seen very good information shows about creationism and evolution where they make their points only in the topic at hand, and not saying that religion is merely right or wrong. They bring up evidence that supports or oppose The Garden of Eden (for example). Not god. Um... Let's see. I'm not trying to disprove religion in here, I'm trying to do that in batts thread. I agree it makes a great thread. No, I haven't created a thread about it because there already is one. I HAVE returned to the topic at hand, and only stated my opinion on how Chrisitanity and creationism are so related that disproving one basically disproves the other. I didn't try to disprove Chrisitanity directly, but attempted to disprove creationism. The 'error you did not make' was not directed at you, but was just pointed out, showing that evolution has more than just the fossil record to back it up. It wasn't personal, but aimed at the entire topic. I have said nothing about religion being right or wrong. I just pointed out that creationism and Christianity are very similar. I feel like i have repeated myself for the fifth time just now. I guess we just don't see eye to eye. The evidence I have presented opposes the Garden of Eden ideas by supporting the contrasting idea of evolution. This IS a discussion by the way. We can bounce ideas off of each other withuot being yelled at. Lots of times discussion leads to other topics that are similar. I still don't beleive my posts were in any way violating the topic at hand. They are completely related. I won't argue any more. All i tried to do was point out something and you mistook it for me being a rebel in the thread or something.
|
|
|
Post by Serival on Sept 26, 2006 21:02:55 GMT -5
I'm not trying to disprove religion in hereDisprove religion, or "prove evolution is superior." No, I haven't created a thread about it because there already is one.You weren't using it. I HAVE returned to the topic at handNo you haven't. and only stated my opinion on how Chrisitanity and creationism are so related that disproving one basically disproves the other. I didn't try to disprove Chrisitanity directly, but attempted to disprove creationism. reply #8 The 'error you did not make' was not directed at you . . . "Serival, fossils aren't the only evidence, nor the best." compaired to "Serival, pointed out a few examples of evidence, but I personally think that DNA is probably the best examples we have." I have said nothing about religion being right or wrong. I just pointed out that creationism and Christianity are very similar. I feel like i have repeated myself for the fifth time just now.I wouldn't have said anything if you hadn't said, "Disprove religion, and you disprove creationism." Also you, instead of just complying, continue your point like you're trying to leave the oppurtunity open to jump in with a "religion is wrong" post. They are completely related. Not so much. All i tried to do was point out something and you mistook it for me being a rebel in the thread or something.Oh well. I guess since you're done arguing that's that.
Really the only part of this debate that effects me directly is the "Should evolution be taught in schools" part. My first semester science teacher actually left evolution (taught second) completely out of the regime. I was told he also had some minor speeches about creationism. My second semester teacher taught it, but she also talked about creationism (not preached) a lot towards the end of the class.
|
|
|
Post by notoriousfro on Sept 27, 2006 14:52:26 GMT -5
Yeah... I guess we just don't see eye to eye. So frustrating *no more words come out of my mouth*
|
|
|
Post by :[DS]: Battôsai on Oct 12, 2006 10:32:00 GMT -5
But how can you be nothing? Well, how did you feel before you were born? Before you were conceived? I guess that's what it feels like to be nothing. It used to trouble me, too. I think just plain existence is the deepest and most amazing gift God gave us.
|
|