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Post by spik3 on Aug 27, 2006 17:40:57 GMT -5
Yes i agree with sucker but pulling them out would be just stupid.If we pulled all our troops out now it would have been a useless cause.And also do you think they would just forget that we started a war with them and then left killing many of them?They are driven by certaib rules in their society one being honor.By being killed and attacked by us we broke their honor and they have something to prove.They would not let it go.We'd have another 9/11 all over again.Plus many men and women died over there fighting for this cause.Do you think it would be right to pull out before it was fijnished.If we pulled out it would all have beeen for nothing.
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Post by underworld nightmare on Aug 27, 2006 17:44:46 GMT -5
well you all guys need to watch "farrenhight 9/11" or something like that, and then you'll learn about you goverment...
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Post by Sucker Punch on Aug 27, 2006 21:53:23 GMT -5
I'm saying after our mission is done and the Iraqi Army is ready, we gradually pull out troops but leave around 10,000-15,000 troops there. I never said to pull them all out.
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Post by spik3 on Aug 28, 2006 1:27:16 GMT -5
I know you didnt i was talking to Bm at that time.And underworld where do you live because the guy who made farenheitt(micheal moore) 9/11 isa retard who knows nothing about our government.
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Post by :[DS]: A MyStiCaL Fly on Aug 28, 2006 13:46:25 GMT -5
spike have you seen farrenhight 9/11? Even if the guy who made it is a "retard" the things he points out, are very interesting to see... I am curious to see Farrenhype 9/11, and see what it talks about.(its supposed to bash michel moores theorys.) So of course, fly likes to hear all kinds of views, I have seen farrenhight 9/11 and if you havint you might find it interseting. there it nothing that I saw that he "faked" people on, or "lead" them to believe(I heard my "mormon"/"republican" friends/family tell me that. They are also the ones that suggest I watch Farrenhype 9/11 which I am interested to do so. ). So, yeah was interesting, I would like to see it again.
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Post by spik3 on Aug 28, 2006 14:00:44 GMT -5
Fly you just assumed i never saw it.
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Post by :[DS]: A MyStiCaL Fly on Aug 28, 2006 16:18:17 GMT -5
*laughs* nods, I did. Now answer the question . Becuase if you have seen it, that is an interesting opinion . Just trying to learn all the facts of what all you have been exposed to, Why your view is that way and such. Becuase obviously your opinion is based on the man, not the facts he brings up. *laughs* basicly, I am curious if you know "more" about what he brings up(if you have seen it, which I am not sure you have.), and if so, please share. Hell, I am not even sure he is a "retard" but hey, tell me why and perhaps I will. But again him being a retard is beside the point, What his movie contains IS the point. The man is not in question here.
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Post by 517 on Sept 9, 2006 4:46:06 GMT -5
Its a bad choice either way,
pulling out or staying
lose face or lose lives..
but the U.S is kinda spread thin isn't it?
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Post by notoriousfro on Sept 9, 2006 18:25:13 GMT -5
This is kind of random, but it would be HILARIOUS if we found WMDs right before November this year... Or right before the next presidential election. The republicans just have to pick the elections that are more important to them ;D ;D
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Post by Chariot is Legend! on Sept 12, 2006 9:34:12 GMT -5
America shouldn't be the World Police. That's why every one hates us. Spike, you right in saying some people need help, but why should it be us? Why Should we send more people to Iraq then to Afghanistan? Why is it when an oil-possessing nation gets in trouble, we step in as "liberators"? Bush calls the people fighting in the streets of Baghdad terrorists, correct? What the hell do you expect them to do? Accept us? Greet us at the door with and offer us some pie? No, they are defending their country. We would do the same thing. The only reason they fight the way they do is because we're the friggin American Army for christs sake! Would you take large numbers of troops head on into battle against a larger force that is better trained? No, you fight a guerrilla war. I dont believe we are winning. There were no terrorists in Iraq to begin with. Not until we invaded them did the terrorists flow in. Iraq has become a haven for terrorism. Osama and Saddam were not involved. Osama denounced Saddam. He called him the infadel, or something like that. When it comes down to it, theres no excuse for invading Iraq on such a large scale. We should have listened to the U.N.
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Post by Esko Epäkesko on Sept 12, 2006 12:32:43 GMT -5
why should it be us? Why Should we send more people to Iraq then to Afghanistan? Why is it when an oil-possessing nation gets in trouble, we step in as "liberators"? Because US is the biggest export of weapons. Because US economy would simply crash if there wasnt disturb in world. Because US simply cant afford to have a peaceful planet earth. That's why. And it's called 'business', and all business is OK, so stop whining about war -its for your own best. US needed to have a full scale attack on Iraq, because the warehouses were full of weapons and bombs -and US badly needed to clear some space. Father Bush cut the unemployment and made the economy boost by building weaponry, and son was forced to continue along the same road. Attacking 'hard and fast' wasnt because of Saddammit, it was because 90% of human race was already against that silly excuse for war -empty the weapons storages fast before UN (|O.K| U.N, yes we have players in high positions) goes 'Break it up boys!' Those are also the main reasons of 'why do we have poverty?' You need poor people, so that they'd join the army, spend three or five years as rifleman so that they'd get free university. Rich kids only recruit army in movies, it's the poor and hopeless people who need to join. No pun intented, but US cant afford to have 100% of people with good income. Who would use the inventions of weapons industry if there were no poor niggas or white trash as soldiers? Israel alone? 'Liberating villages from villains' is bad business, while having the heavy industry working on weaponry increases employment and also makes more money than drug business. Guess which matters more in global politics? And please stop bashing Bush. Do you really think he is nothing more but a puppet. Get out of the Matrix and you'll see who pulls the strings. Not sure about Blair though, he might be an idiot. I suggest you embrace your loved ones, cause Rome is about to burn again. In different continent this time. .. Or maybe i'm wrong again. US has had policy of spreading western democracy since the days of Kennedy. Now that Bush party are in charge, the tools to spread democracy have gotten sharper and meaner. Boy am I glad we already have democracy in here. PS: About 'my dad is better than yours'- discussion. Finland kicked long and hard Russian's arse in WW2. Pardon me if I consider the rest of world's military forces as wannabes PPS: i wrote US, but I meant YOU. .esko.
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Post by Chariot is Legend! on Sept 14, 2006 9:01:16 GMT -5
I'm....sorry?
When the hell did Finland step in the middle of things?
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Post by Esko Epäkesko on Sept 14, 2006 12:02:03 GMT -5
EDIT: Now wait a friggin' second. Why am i apologizing, am i nuts? You think I should sthu because of the details in my passport? Tsk tsk. Are my opinions worthless just because i may have a different perspective to certain things? Ever occured that if you live in center of vortex, you actually see nothing of the vortex? US has always been country of free speak and tolerance, I suggest you live by that code, no matter who runs your country. (ORIG: it never did. it's just called 'interfering', i learned everything about it by watching world politics. Sorry if i popped in to steal anyone's thread here )
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